Hawai'i court blocks release of Barack Obama's birth certificate
Andy Martin hopes to appeal Honolulu court decision on Obama birth certificate. "Another court, another cover-up," says Martin. "What is wrong with our country when someone can be 'elected' without providing access to the original copy of their birth certificate? Something is drastically wrong with our democracy, and every American will pay the price. We will be issuing a fund raising appeal to continue this battle on appeal. The claim that a president's birth certificate is secret is complete nonsense."
Andy Martin hopes to appeal Honolulu court decision on Obama birth certificate, but has not yet received a copy of the ruling
ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com
“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
INTERNET POWERHOUSE ANDY MARTIN PLANS TO APPEAL DISMISSAL OF BARACK OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE LAWSUIT, SAYS HE HAS NOT YET RECEIVED A COPY
MARTIN SAYS JUDICIAL SYSTEM REFLECTS "CALLOUS DISREGARD" FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
(NEW YORK)(November 21, 2008) For those of you who are not familiar with the peculiar highways and byways of the judicial process, welcome to the strange ways of the court system in Hawai'i. Apparently my lawsuit in a Honolulu state court has been dismissed.
Unfortunately, I have not seen a copy of the decision. Despite the significance of the court order, I was not given a courtesy notice when it was entered in Honolulu, apparently late Wednesday, although I was in Honolulu all day on Wednesday.
Thursday all day I was traveling back to New York and was unavailable. I did not get back to New York until 8:00 A.M. Friday.
I was alerted by a reader's e-mail that something had happened, and went to the Honolulu Advertiser's web site where I found a complete story, http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081121/NEWS20/811210355/1001/localnewsfront.
Obviously I was unable to respond to phone calls while in the air, and when I checked my e-mails today the Advertiser reporter had not left a phone number to call him back.
The Court did not fax my office a copy and so I have no immediate way of seeing a copy of the decision. I assume the Advertiser's news report is a fair summary of the decision.
Depending on what the response is to a fund appeal, I will certainly appeal this decision to the Hawai'i Intermediate Court of Appeals. The trial court's interpretation of the relevant statute appears to be a wooden reading of the law. The claim that there is a lack of historical significance to the birth certificate of a president of the United States is a classic example of how utter nonsense can exist in the judicial system.
I will solicit input from my audience as to whether they feel that pursuit of the appeal is a worthwhile venture and will proceed accordingly.
I understand how 150 million Americans are frustrated by the callous disregard which the court system has shown for access to vital, basic information about Barack Obama, the "mystery man" who has been elected president by the "Mainstream Media of the United States."
However other than this mild criticism, I believe it is more appropriate to proceed through the judicial process, and that is the course I intend to follow on the issue of access to Barack Obama's original, typewritten 1961 original birth certificate.
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Readers of Obama: The Man Behind The Mask, say the book is still the only gold standard and practical handbook on Barack Obama's unfitness for the presidency. Buy it.
Book orders: Amazon.com or http://OrangeStatePress.com. Immediate shipment from Amazon.com or signed copies from the publisher are available.
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URGENT APPEAL: The Committee of One Million to Defeat Barack Obama is raising money to oppose President-elect Barack Obama. http://CommitteeofOneMilliontoDefeatBarackObama.com. Please give generously up to the maximum of $100. Our ability to fight and defeat Barack Obama is directly dependent on the generosity of every American.
“The Committee of One Million to Defeat Barack Obama limits itself to $100 maximum contributions; there are no bundlers, fat cats or illegal contributions. Obama is opposed to everything America stands for," says Executive Director Andy Martin. "But while Obama has raised almost a billion dollars, his opponents have raised virtually nothing. Americans can either contribute now, or pay later. If we do not succeed, Obama will."
E-mail: contact@CommitteeofOneMilliontoDefeatBarackObama.com
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Andy Martin is a legendary Chicago muckraker, author, Internet columnist, radio talk show host, broadcaster and media critic. He has over forty years of broadcasting experience in radio and television. He is currently based in New York selling his new book, Obama: The Man Behind The Mask. Andy is the Executive Editor and publisher of www.ContrarianCommentary.com. © Copyright by Andy Martin 2008. Martin comments on regional, national and world events with over forty years of experience. He holds a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Illinois College of Law.
His columns are also posted at ContrarianCommentary.blogspot.com; contrariancommentary.wordpress.com. Andy is the author of Obama: The Man Behind The Mask, published in July 2008, see http://www.OrangeStatePress.com.
MEDIA CONTACT: (866) 706-2639 or CELL (917) 664-9329
E-MAIL: AndyMart20@aol.com [NOTE: We frequently correct typographical errors and additions/subtractions on our blogs, where you can find the latest edition of this release.]
Andy Martin hopes to appeal Honolulu court decision on Obama birth certificate. "Another court, another cover-up," says Martin. "What is wrong with our country when someone can be 'elected' without providing access to the original copy of their birth certificate? Something is drastically wrong with our democracy, and every American will pay the price. We will be issuing a fund raising appeal to continue this battle on appeal. The claim that a president's birth certificate is secret is complete nonsense."
Andy Martin hopes to appeal Honolulu court decision on Obama birth certificate, but has not yet received a copy of the ruling
ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com
“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
INTERNET POWERHOUSE ANDY MARTIN PLANS TO APPEAL DISMISSAL OF BARACK OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE LAWSUIT, SAYS HE HAS NOT YET RECEIVED A COPY
MARTIN SAYS JUDICIAL SYSTEM REFLECTS "CALLOUS DISREGARD" FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
(NEW YORK)(November 21, 2008) For those of you who are not familiar with the peculiar highways and byways of the judicial process, welcome to the strange ways of the court system in Hawai'i. Apparently my lawsuit in a Honolulu state court has been dismissed.
Unfortunately, I have not seen a copy of the decision. Despite the significance of the court order, I was not given a courtesy notice when it was entered in Honolulu, apparently late Wednesday, although I was in Honolulu all day on Wednesday.
Thursday all day I was traveling back to New York and was unavailable. I did not get back to New York until 8:00 A.M. Friday.
I was alerted by a reader's e-mail that something had happened, and went to the Honolulu Advertiser's web site where I found a complete story, http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081121/NEWS20/811210355/1001/localnewsfront.
Obviously I was unable to respond to phone calls while in the air, and when I checked my e-mails today the Advertiser reporter had not left a phone number to call him back.
The Court did not fax my office a copy and so I have no immediate way of seeing a copy of the decision. I assume the Advertiser's news report is a fair summary of the decision.
Depending on what the response is to a fund appeal, I will certainly appeal this decision to the Hawai'i Intermediate Court of Appeals. The trial court's interpretation of the relevant statute appears to be a wooden reading of the law. The claim that there is a lack of historical significance to the birth certificate of a president of the United States is a classic example of how utter nonsense can exist in the judicial system.
I will solicit input from my audience as to whether they feel that pursuit of the appeal is a worthwhile venture and will proceed accordingly.
I understand how 150 million Americans are frustrated by the callous disregard which the court system has shown for access to vital, basic information about Barack Obama, the "mystery man" who has been elected president by the "Mainstream Media of the United States."
However other than this mild criticism, I believe it is more appropriate to proceed through the judicial process, and that is the course I intend to follow on the issue of access to Barack Obama's original, typewritten 1961 original birth certificate.
----------------------------------------------
Readers of Obama: The Man Behind The Mask, say the book is still the only gold standard and practical handbook on Barack Obama's unfitness for the presidency. Buy it.
Book orders: Amazon.com or http://OrangeStatePress.com. Immediate shipment from Amazon.com or signed copies from the publisher are available.
---------------------------------------------
URGENT APPEAL: The Committee of One Million to Defeat Barack Obama is raising money to oppose President-elect Barack Obama. http://CommitteeofOneMilliontoDefeatBarackObama.com. Please give generously up to the maximum of $100. Our ability to fight and defeat Barack Obama is directly dependent on the generosity of every American.
“The Committee of One Million to Defeat Barack Obama limits itself to $100 maximum contributions; there are no bundlers, fat cats or illegal contributions. Obama is opposed to everything America stands for," says Executive Director Andy Martin. "But while Obama has raised almost a billion dollars, his opponents have raised virtually nothing. Americans can either contribute now, or pay later. If we do not succeed, Obama will."
E-mail: contact@CommitteeofOneMilliontoDefeatBarackObama.com
---------------------------------------------
Andy Martin is a legendary Chicago muckraker, author, Internet columnist, radio talk show host, broadcaster and media critic. He has over forty years of broadcasting experience in radio and television. He is currently based in New York selling his new book, Obama: The Man Behind The Mask. Andy is the Executive Editor and publisher of www.ContrarianCommentary.com. © Copyright by Andy Martin 2008. Martin comments on regional, national and world events with over forty years of experience. He holds a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Illinois College of Law.
His columns are also posted at ContrarianCommentary.blogspot.com; contrariancommentary.wordpress.com. Andy is the author of Obama: The Man Behind The Mask, published in July 2008, see http://www.OrangeStatePress.com.
MEDIA CONTACT: (866) 706-2639 or CELL (917) 664-9329
E-MAIL: AndyMart20@aol.com [NOTE: We frequently correct typographical errors and additions/subtractions on our blogs, where you can find the latest edition of this release.]
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posted by Andy Martin | 11:30 PM
12 Comments:
Andy,
We need and appreciate your efforts! Please go forward with your appeals...I just forwarded my contribution to assist you.
Thank you again
Has Obama file any document to run for office where he had to state he was a natural born citizen? If so, would it be a good idea to challenge that document?
This is too important to drop. Please continue. I hate the idea that everyone is protecting him from scrutiny. Obama thinks he is above the law. Judges seem to pick and choose which laws are "unconstitutional" and which aren't. It is important that the judicial system uphold the constitution in this and not let Obama get away without giving an account of his citizenship. Who is Obama that people don't have the backbone to stand against him in our judicial system? Are they afraid of him? Our founding fathers stating the President must be a natural born citizen was to protect the American people from tyranny. Thanks for representing all of us, Andy. We appreciate it.
Andy, you are pathetic. Obama submitted the copy of the birth certificate he received from Hawaii. You and I both KNOW that Hawaii does not provide a long form or vault copy of a birth certificate to ANYONE. They never have and probably never will. In Hawaii, your short form copy is fully legal for all purposes.
There is nothing sinister about this. Anyone who wants a copy of his or her birth certificate receives the short-form, period. In this case, two officials went into the vault, examined the existing vault certificate, and verified its authenticity.
Your manlove for Obama is way past the obsession phase. Get over it, you are really embarrassing yourself even more than you already have.
Dear Candid Blogger -- the public's interest whether there is any authentic birth certificate is growing because of this posting this weekend:
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
Caution: It takes a LOT OF TIME to read this blog, but the expertise of the author is credible. And, he backs all of his research with a claim that someone who forged the document is guilty of a crime that is punishable by a fine, or 15 years in prison, or both.
That can't be dismissed so easily.
Andy:
Giving up is exactly what we should not do. Someone has to have the brass ones to go ahead and not give up on this. I have written to the Supreme Court Justices last; hopefully everyone else did as well.
There are only 3 requirements to run for President - which are quite basic, and if the American People cannot even be given the proof of these three basic requirements; then we have already become a Socialist country, and the Constitution doesn't matter.
This is a travesty!
Please continue.
Ted said...
You gotta hear this 90 minute blogradio on why the media has a blackout of the looming Obama Birth Certificate Constitutional Crisis:
http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/2008/11/why-is-obamas-birth-certificate-still.html
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Interesting comments on this radio conversation with a caller. It's good to hear a caller saying what we've all been writing on all blogs.
Thanks for posting.
Keep those letters going to the Supreme Court Justices. Flood their mailboxes (US Postal service).
You said it all, Candid Blogger. This is much ado about nothing and the public's interest isn't growing. This man, Martin, has no right to see anyone's birth certificate, but his own. Privacy laws are in place specifically for people like him. This continues to sizzle in the seamy underbelly of anti-Obamites, but no where else. Only 8 comments is a good indication. If you look at Berg's webpage and watch his address to a "rally," you will never see the rally "crowd," but you will hear at least two or three, maybe four people clap. It is a groundswell of support.
Dear Georgia Mountain man -- a claim that there is a "Right of Privacy" concerning one of the Constitution's criteria to be eligible to enter on the Office of President of the United States is a bit of a stretch, wouldn't you think.
You might think that the whole country had turned into a nation of idiots, to let someone get away with that stunt!
Remember Eldridge Cleaver? He was nominated to be President of the United States. But it turns out, that when California looked at his Birth Certificate, they discovered that he was only 34 years old!
So, they had to take him off the ballot -- and he sued all the way up to the U. S. Supreme Court. But he lost!
So, this demand is not something all brand new, pulled out of thin air, and just to pick on Barack Obama!
It's the way we've all agreed to let ourselves be governed. We are a sovereign people, yet we've given up some of our power to the government in exchange for the government protecting our "Rights." -- That's the deal.
And one of our "Rights" that we want protected is our "Right to be Governed" by someone the Constitution says is eligible to govern.
I think that "Right" is even more important than Obama's "Right to Privacy!"
Wouldn't you agree? Because, that's what this is all about.
Based on information that has surfaced to date, and particularly in the wake of the Donofrio v. Wells lawsuit and other similar suits, I am fairly comfortable with the conclusion that John McCain is not and never was a natural born citizen as that term is used in the U.S. Constitution. That is not to say that McCain is not a citizen, or even that he was not a citizen at birth. Rather, it is to say that the geographic circumstances of his birth (outside any and all U.S. states, outside any and all U.S. territories) were not such as would bestow upon him Constitutionally-valid natural born citizen status.
While I am not extremely comfortable with the conclusion that Barack Obama is not at this point a natural born citizen as that term is used in the U.S. Constitution, I am beginning to think that this is what the U.S. Supreme Court will ultimately conclude based on a full set of facts, once those facts are discovered, pursuant to federal court orders compelling disclosure to that effect.
The following is my theory. Barack Obama was born in Honolulu of married parents, of which his mother was a U.S. citizen, and his father was a subject of the United Kingdom by virtue of his Kenyan nationality. At this point, and at least temporarily, Barack Obama is a natural born citizen. Fast forward to when Barack Obama turns 18. He is now an adult, and remains a natural born citizen. By virtue of the fact that Kenya is no longer a colony of the UK, Barack is also a full-fledged citizen of Kenya. As a dual citizen of the U.S. and Kenya, Barack now has options which, as an adult, he is fully empowered to exercise. For example, now that he is an adult, he can formally renounce his Kenyan citizenship. Since he has not renounced U.S. citizenship he has held since birth, he is free and clear to run for president of the U.S. once he attains the age of 35.
But let's say he does nothing for the time being. He is an 18 year old adult holding dual citizenship in the U.S. and Kenya, just living his life. He enrolls in Occidental College as an out-of-state freshman, ostensibly of U.S. nationality and citizenship. Tiring of Occidental, he learns of opportunities available at Ivy League colleges and universities for foreign nationals to matriculate at a steep tuition discount, lower entrance requirements, or both. Possessing Kenyan citizenship, Obama thinks, hey, why not apply and see what happens. He fills out a Columbia application, indicates Kenyan citizenship, signs the application, and sends it to Columbia. Much to his surprise, he is accepted, and he matriculates at the age of 20 as part of Columbia's program for accommodating students of foreign nationality. By the time Barack Obama reaches age 21, he has failed to formally renounce U.S. citizenship. By operation of Kenyan law, he loses his Kenyan citizenship. Retaining his U.S. citizenship, Barack Obama finishes his degree at Columbia, and begins living the rest of his life.
IMHO, the Supreme Court will consider Barack Obama's personal behavior between the ages of 18 and 21 to be directly relevant to the question as to whether he presently possesses Constitutionally-valid natural born citizen status. More particularly, they will be evaluating his actions during that time for any evidence of deliberate actions which are inconsistent with a desire on his part to preserve his Constitutionally-valid natural born citizen status. They will be presented with the documentation comprising his Columbia application and find where he declared himself to be a Kenyan citizen for the purpose of gaining admission and/or obtaining a break on tuition. Based on this, they will conclude that Barack Obama forfeited his previously-held Constitutionally-valid natural born citizen status. This despite the fact that Barack Obama never gave up his U.S. citizenship proper.
Now that I've run this up the flagpole, I'd be interested to know if anyone thinks it deserves a salute.
Anything is possible, Gavin, but what about the years "O" spent in Indonesia, after he was adopted? (at a time when dual citizenship was not allowed, with the US.)
Thanks for responding, Neen.
FWIW, I'm not unconcerned about citizenship questions arising from Obama's years in Indonesia.
But for the moment, my question is whether an adult-age Obama can be determined to have allowed "natural born citizen" status to slip through his fingers, without actually losing his U.S. citizenship proper.
As part of this exercise, I am assuming that the U.S. Supreme Court will be loathe to consider whether acts undertaken by a child, or by an adult on behalf of that child, can have the effect of stripping that child of Constitutionally-valid natural born citizen status.
This is why I am focusing on the question of whether one, holding dual citizenship since birth in the U.S. and in at least one other country, can take any action **as an adult** which moves one from the category of "having potential for divided loyalty" into the category of "having demonstrated divided loyalty."
I have not seen this issue discussed anywhere else. Over the weekend, I did some research on whether individual attorneys (like myself) have had any success in crafting what are commonly referred to as "amicus curiae" briefs for the purpose of introducing information and related analysis to the U.S. Supreme Court on matters currently under consideration by the justices. Bottom line--such efforts seem unlikely to bear fruit unless a "name" attorney or legal foundation is recruited to give the brief "heft" in the eyes of the justices, or perhaps more importantly, in the eyes of the law clerks who are serving the justices.
That said, I still feel like my ideas could be useful if somehow, some way, they are whispered into the ear of one of the current justices. If any of them are inclined to start hashing this issue out, there will be an enormous need for policy arguments indicating under what circumstances one who holds, or has at one time held, dual citizenship, can nevertheless be determined to possess constitutionally-valid natural born citizen status.
In other news, I checked the U.S. Supreme Court docket for Donofrio's emergency stay application this morning (December 1, 2008) and found a new entry. According to a new entry, Justice Thomas has personally referred the matter for the consideration of the entire court. This is a separate and distinct entry from the one that indicated that the application was "Distributed for Conference of December 5, 2008". However, both entries share the same date of November 19, 2008.
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